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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:34 pm
I have been an Australian citizen since 1970, and lived in Victoria and Queensland over this time, (never left Australia).
In late August 2008, at age 62, I left my employment and came to live in Thailand, been here for the last 2 years, and planning to stay here a few more years.
In August this year 2011 I returned to Australia for two weeks and lodged my age pension forms, thinking that as an Australian Citizen and after having spent almost 40 years in the country, I would be able to claim it. To my surprise I received notification from Center link stating that my application was declined because I did not live in Australia for the last 2 years ??????
I am not a mathematician, but 3/4 of my life was spent in Australia believing that I belonged to the pack (proud Australian) , then I left the country for 5 minutes, and by pure magic I lost my rights.
I am totally confused, they have asked me to live in Australia for 2 years before I can claim it !!!!! what happened to almost 40 years that I lived there ????
The mighty Australia, the crusader of human rights, the world leader in everything and anything, the lucky country, the , the ,the…………(to many virtues and qualities to list here) is conveniently ROBBING me of my basic rights ????

It seems to me that Center link , and policy makers have difficulty understanding the terms “Citizenship” and “Residency”
Citizenship is a privilege given by any government to a citizen allowing him to live in a country .
Residency is a privilege that any citizen should have in deciding where one wants to live.
Conveniently the Australian government (Center link) is using the loophole of “residency) to refuse to pay Old Age Pension if one does not live in Australia two years prior of claiming OAP.
I lived in Australia for 40 years, (continually) worked, pay my dues, and lived as perfect citizen, but regrettably two years before reaching age 65 I lived in Thailand, and by pure magic I lost the right to claim OAP.
One does not have to be a mathematician, but 40 years is far greater than 2, are they STUPID ???????? I don't think so, in fact I think they are very smart (or at least they think they are.
Now if a Citizen lived in Australia lets say for 5 years, left the country for 30 years, but decided to return to Oz for two years ,(prior to lodge a claim) he/she is entitled to receive the OAP …..OOPPS !!!!! I should have warned you……...my mathematical skills are not the best.
As we say back home …..they need to (STOP THE BULL CRAP)
Old Age pension is just that “OLD AGE PENSION) , no bull crap, no loop holes, no ifs & buts, no trickery, and above all AUSTRALIA (I mean Politicians) don't insult our intelligence……….WE MADE THE COUNTRY THAT AUSTRALIA IS.

A child would tell you that anything that has strings attached is NOTHING BUT A CON, PERIOD.
Don’t insult our intelligence.
(Scrap the two year ruling), 20,30 or 40 years in the country is far greater then 2 years, don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that.
Centre link and Politicians must come to their senses, and “CALL A SPADE A SPADE” no strings attached, they already have a rotten reputation , they invented corruption, now they want us to follow in their foot steps and then wonder why people rot the system.

God bless Australia

A very disgruntled Australian
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:16 pm
I looked up the Australian federal government's web page regarding residence requirements for age pension eligibility. It looks like either the government or you is not providing all the necessary facts to determine if you are right. Unless more particulars are provided - such as where the government states that applicants are not eligible for the age pension unless they have resided in Australia for the last two years before application - you can't expect a lot of sympathy.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:19 pm
Thanks for trying to help out.
This is precisely the point...Centre link keeps changing the goal post while the game is been played.. I didn't make the ruling, they did. I am still trying to figer out when this ruling was made, no one seems to know, but centre link says it exist. (its not on their web page but every time I have rang and questioned it this is what they are verbally telling me.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:24 pm
A couple of questions for the original poster.

1. You say you became an Australian citizen in 1970. When were you initially granted permanent residency?
2. What is your original nationality? Are you Thai by birth?

From what you have mention I think you arrived in Australia in 1968 and became a 'citizen' in 1970. Is it possible that you were only granted permanent residency in 1970 because if you arrived in 1968 then to gain citizenship in 2 years would be a record.

As Fringedweller has already said ... it does look like not all the correct information is being given by either yourself or Centrelink. The residency rules are in black and white and given the story you have told us you would meet the 10 year continuous residency part.

Centrelink cannot change the goal post as you say. The legislation is clear about residency.

I am with Fringedweller in that not all the correct information is being given.

One thing you should also be aware of is that there is no reciprocal age pension agreement between Thailand and Australia.

I hope it works out for you.

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